A while ago, I have made an post that lead many Chinese people to attack me on this blog. It got really a huge volume, I have to congratulate those Chinese people for their effort, and I like to organize a rebut.
Since most of the attackers suck at English and I'm not a perfect English speaker, I will make my post in Chinese so it makes both you and my life easier.
English only speakers, I'm sorry but this post is not for you, I will not offer an English translation.
我看了一下回复,只有两种回复:
1. 人身攻击的回复
2. 有论点的回复
很可惜,大多回复都是人身攻击的回复. 而大多人身攻击的人连攻击我的原因都没有给.
攻击我家庭的人:
很可惜. 我没有什么好回复的. 你对我家里人有不满,你在他们面前骂.
认为 我是叛徒的人:
叛徒的定义是什么?
叛徒就是叛变者.
叛变是一个罪, 危害国家利益的就是叛变.
我的国家是什么? 我的国家是澳大利亚.
我是中国出身,我有中国血统,但是我不是中国公民. 如果我出什么事情,中国根本不会帮我, 因为我是澳大利亚国籍. 对中国来说,我的死活和他一点关系都没有.
说我 忘记祖宗:
真的,祖宗和我什么关系? 难道我见到一个单细胞生物就要低头跪拜?
"这个生物和所有人类一样...都是由最初的生物进化而来的. 可能是我的堂堂堂....哥...还是姐? 唔,这个细胞没有性别耶?"
人类是很奇怪的东西...说祖宗,到底哪一层算是祖宗,多少层以后不是祖宗呢? 人凭什么一出生有那么多责任? 你贡献给我了,我感激你,我会贡献给你. 你没有贡献给我,但是我愿意贡献给你,我就贡献给你. 除此以外,我没有责任.
说国家,都是人定义的...爱国比爱省重要么? 那么爱国和爱世界比起来哪一个更重要? 如果都是爱国重要,为什么国那么重要? 是爱国重要还是爱族系重要? 是爱人民重要还是爱国重要? 是爱人重要还是爱国重要? 将人放在国前面么? 是尊严重要还是人民的和谐生活重要?
对我来说,爱自己最重要, 祖宗我见过几个? 哪个祖宗在我需要的时候帮助我? 没有.
人只能帮助自己.
说我 也是中国人
没错. 我也是我现在学校的人,但是我天天说我们学校的人数学能力很差,和其他学校比起来差多了. "难道你不是我们学校的人?" "是的, 但是我的数学能力很好,整个世界无敌?"
不好听的话没有人喜欢听.
以为 我认为白人是优等种族:
我认为混血是优等种族,一切纯种都没有混血优等. 白人不比亚洲人好. 亚洲人也不比白人好. 问问你们生物系的,什么叫做"杂交优势".
喜欢人身攻击的人:
没有意义,说明不了什么.我不删(除重贴)你们人身攻击的一切,这样可以让其他人看到,了解你们的品德.
说我不喜欢中国为什么要在中国呆很久:
我不喜欢中国制度而已,我喜欢中国其他东西.
我喜欢牛肉粉丝.芜湖混沌也是非常美味的.如果你有机会去芜湖,一定要吃呢里的东西.
说我写文章的时候正在中国:
没有错,我写哪篇文章的时候我正在中国. 当时看到其他人发和这个有关的东西,感觉有意思,也就发来了和其他人分享.
以下几点我要澄清:
1. 我不认为中国人多么了不起. 我完全不喜欢用种族划分集体. 我喜欢用兴趣和水平划分集体.
2. 我不喜欢极端爱国主义. 对我来说,国家是人为定义的, 而且定义的不好.
3. 我不在美国MIT读数学,我只说了我希望进入美国MIT读数学和计算机科学,如果你看到帖子说我在MIT,那就是帖子发表者理解错误.我没有什么了不起的,一般人一个,和王千源比,她比我强, 她至少进了Duke. 我以後在哪里未知数.
4. 看我的原贴. 大概意思是:
我很喜欢他能将一堆中国人弄得非常愤怒然后开始漫骂. 我学了很多骂人的方法. 且,我感觉到英语不好的人开英语网站做英语的投票很搞笑.
我用嘲笑的方式看待这件事情, 没有特别攻击人的目的. 我主要感到所有人把这个事情看得那么重太搞笑了. 就算见到一个T-shirt上面说我是白痴,我也一笑而过. 如果我心情好+有时间,和他们理论. 但是弄一个网站开始投票就太认真了. 这种事情没有正确和错误的,又不是数学题.
5. 后面其他人开始回复,开始是一堆反中国的人说话,我只有顺便回复一下.
6. 然后,因为反中国言论出现,开始吸引其他类型的人,最后结果就是种族歧视,国家尊严,西藏独立之类的东西.
7. 然后骂人的就来了,因为我没有保护中国. 任由这堆人说话,甚至最后我说"可能共产主义是好事情,因为现在中国所谓的"大学生"之类的青年人控制国家可能会引起战争." 愤青太多, 你不信, 我只能用我的经验说话,错了我自己也没有办法.
8. 我让他们说,自由言论. 我不保护中国,因为我没有需要花时间想方法和他辩论,我不是天天没事做的人. 注意,不是人身攻击他们. 人身攻击简单, 2秒我就能骂他全家. 可惜,这个不是辩论, 这个只能将人的注意力转到没有用的地方去. 就像我给出一个数学的证明,结果其中有一步是错的.你发现了,其他人没有. 你骂我白痴. 但是其他人并没有得到什么. 你发泄了而已,让你自己感觉到你高人一等而已.
9. 哪个国家更民主? 美国还是中国? 我的意见, 美国. 你不服, 告诉我. 我们来讨论.
10. 我是否更喜欢白人? 概率问题,和我遇到同种类人的多少和多少人让我有好感之比为定. 中国内地都有"上海人", "北京人"这样之分, 我没有遇到过太多,所以我也不好说. 具体来说,我不喜欢我遇到的大多人.我对 99%的人类都没有好感. 我只对给我好处或者非常有能力的人有好感.
11. 我不偏瘫某个种族的人,我偏瘫我喜欢的人. 我喜欢个体而不是集体. 因为人也是一个集体,如果可以将人切成一段一段的,我都可以告诉你哪些我喜欢哪些我不喜欢.
12. 并且,我感觉尊严是这个世界上最扯的事情. 都是个人把自己看得太重要,太了不起的结果. 我认为,人类都不是什么了不起的东西,全是宇宙中可有可无的沙子.
13. 我能理解很多人喜欢和自己血缘或者地理关系近的人在一起,如"中国人","安徽人"和"老乡". 这些人你会更容易亲近. 我没有这个感觉,所以有人攻击这群人我并不会怎么维护他们. 这不是数学, 没有理由较劲.
如果你们现在想要骂, 随便. 放在这里,更容易整理. 显示一下你们的人生态度.
突然想到了,就算我写出长篇大论,你们也不看,也会跳过直接骂我. 我何必关心. 你们有时间自己耗着吧. 过了今天再说我就不会回答了.
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>>>> 我认为混血是优等种族,一切纯种都没有混血优等. 白人不比亚洲人好. 亚洲人也不比白人好. 问问你们生物系的,什么叫做"杂交优势".
it is called racist. Go look up what is called racist.
I am a scientific racist. I
I am a scientific racist. I knew that already.
A racist is a racist, you
A racist is a racist, you are no better than any other racist in the world. So please just don't put a scientific thing in front of it to pretend that you are better than any others, which is of course useless. You can be a scientific mouse, and I don't give a fuck now.
As long as you admit you are a racist, then this conversation is over.
Sorry if you think that
Sorry if you think that way.
Chinese people(Yuan Longping.) are the ones developed hybrid rice. And they are so proud of it because it defeated all other kind of rice in production.
So the race of Hybrid rice are better than other rice.
If you believe that, you are a racist.
If you don't believe that, you are not a racist
because you think one race is superior than another
If you argue hybrid rice is not a rice because it's an hybrid
then I'm, not a racist
It all depends on w/e you think.
you think you argue this
you think you argue this with any logic? It just makes me laugh. We are talking about human beings, and you said that "mixed races are better". Note that we are not talking abut rice, plants, or mud, we are talking about human being. That is how we define a racist! Geez.
Again, learn the ability to reason about things, and argue things with logic and fact.
Racism: Discrimination or
Racism: Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Race: a variety; subspecies.
Multiracial have higher chance to be genetically better. Due to heterosis.
I speak scientifically. I'm sorry to tell you that science is racist.
haha, another "very mature"
haha, another "very mature" way to argue. The following is the definition of racism and racist, and we all know what we talk about in this context.
rac·ism Audio Help /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
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rac·ism Audio Help (rā'sĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
so, do you want to
so, do you want to say.
Multiracial people are not superior genetically?
haha, that is what you
haha, that is what you said... not me, ain't you confused or what?
I'm just saying. You picking
I'm just saying. You picking out this:
"Multiracial people are genetically superior than single racial people"
and say that is racist.
SO:
If you don't agree with me, then you believe:
"Multiracial people are not genetically superior than single racial people"
If you agree with me, then you believe
"Multiracial people are genetically superior than single racial people"
So I said you would say the 1st one. Right?
I repeat what I said, I said
I repeat what I said, I said that "all races are equal, all human beings are equal", there is no superiority between human races.
Define what does it mean by
Define what does it mean by superiority to you.
Superiority to me:
Larger gene pool + more diversity + better chance of survive large environmental changes + lower mortality rate.
According to that definition. Multiracial are more superior than single racial. As a fact. It's not what I think. It's the facts.
I talk superior in biological sense.
Maybe superior to you is completely a different story. If you think people with higher intelligence, better looking, more physical ability and have more money is called "superior".
That's what the sociality generally think is superior.
It's not possible to have a race that's superior in each one of those in every single way. Each race are different, but not superior, than another.
Each person who are born have his/her unique experience, everyone in the world is equal in this philosophical sense.
Biology? You know how the
Biology? You know how the WWII start? How Adolf Hitler said about Jew people? So you start with a new biological argument about human race again?
Again, I repeat what I said, all races are equal, there is no superiority between races. Some people are good, some people are bad, but they should not judged by their race, cultural, ethnic, sex, sex-orientation or language...
Of course you think otherwise, which makes you a racist. Cannot believe it, go read the definition of racism and racist.
Again, I repeat what I said,
I don't think otherwise. I believe people should not be judged by their race.
I don't judge people by their race. Period.
Definition of racist show I HAVE to believe one race is better than other. I don't.
Adolf Hitler don't have scientific proof of what he said.
I have.
I have ever right to say multiracial people are superior genetically.
Because they DO have a larger gene pool. Can you say they Don't have a larger gene pool?
Can you tell me triangles have 4 sides?
They do have smaller mortality rate, because it's breeding between people with very distinct genes.
They do have better adoption to environment overall, because genes are more diverse.
It's same for ALL species, mix between very distinct individuals create larger gene pool, smaller mortality rate and better adoption to environment.
You are the one who make RACE such a big issue. Multiracial are ones with larger gene pool because 2 genetic very distinct individual create an offspring. LOOK IT THAT WAY!
Or should I just call multiracial people people "Offspring of distinct individuals" instead of Multiracial. does that make you happy? Because now it certainly is NOT an race.
It's NOT about I think like that. It's about what SCIENCE say.
Let's take this argument somewhere else. Would you like to go to some biological forum for biology majors?
ASK this question. Is multiracial people superior genetically , do they having a larger gene pool, smaller mortality rate and better adoption to the environment compare to any single racial people.
If biology major people say I'm wrong than I will apologize for making a wrong statement.
But if not, you better start learn some biology before talking about crap.
I don't give a fuck if I'm a racist or not. I care about scientific correctness. Stop attacking me because I said a FACT. Please do some research. You are the reason many scientist can't work on controversial issues.
“瓜” 知道这个字怎
“瓜”
知道这个字怎么读么？ 知道中文我就难得用英文跟你说了，反正越说你是越开心。
自己在心里好好念几遍那个字吧！
带来不少流量
带来不少流量 :)
网站很healthy :)
I'm freaky NAZI
I'm freaky NAZI
Why are you using my
Why are you using my name.
That's really mature.
你小子已经加入澳大
你小子已经加入澳大利亚国籍了啊～汗
很多争论没有什么意
很多争论没有什么意义，谩骂不能解决任何问题，也不能表达任何观点，只能证明谩骂者的素质很差。
虽然是个理性的思考者，但是。。。。
EQ不高（不是谩骂， 是我个人的评价）。
人与社会不可分割， 无论你怎么认为你不是中国裔， 无论你行为如何澳洲化， 或美国化，但在鬼佬第一眼中， 最直接地把你联系到黄皮肤种族， 虽然你可以通过以后的行为正明你是鬼佬一族， 但你不可否认他们的第一感觉已经把你跟亚裔挂钩了。
你把种族看的太重了.
你把种族看的太重了. 非要将人分几类. 累不累?
我EQ很低,我就像机器一样.
我很难以理解人的感情,很多感情我认为是没有必要的.
感情是摧毁理智的方式.
人,只有没有感情,才能非常有逻辑.
人需要的就是消除人的感情,从而更有逻辑,懂得做出最有利益的事情.
可惜人有感情,且社会是存在的.人要找到感情和理智的平衡点.
我个人认为,现在大多人的感情都过高了...应该降低...
不同意！不同意！
如果说感情是摧毁理智的方式，那么同样也可以说理智是摧毁感情的方式。
我不认为两者是互相摧毁的关系。
两者相互制约，同时，两者又相互补充，如何能使其并行不悖，各安其份，是一个人真正应该追求的。
同时，我不相信即使你有这样的主张，你就能真正地做一个“理智“的人，因为你作为一个人的存在，无法摆脱人的存在本身的悖论，你希望消除感情这个举动本身可能就是由于你对理智的偏爱这种”感情“（或许你会认为我说的这种”感情“是”理智“，但我不认为你在这个层面上能真的分清它们）决定的。
另外，那个姑娘现在经常在MSN了。
我没有感情是无法偏
我没有感情是无法偏袒理智的.
但是因为我有感情,所以我现在就是在偏袒理智.
所以我希望理智控制一切.
所有人只有理智,感情就不会再存在了.
那个时候我也不会后悔,或者开心. 不会愤怒,不会生气, 不会嫉妒, 不会贪婪. 不会高兴, 不会惊喜. 多好.
那个时候,我就成为计算机了. 计算机才是真正美好的. 没有任何情感, 但是可以用来计算.
我如果一出生就是一个计算机,我也就不需要考虑学业,考虑下顿饭吃什么,考虑这道数学题怎么做,考虑如何blog然后回复这么多回复.
我完全没有忧愁, 完全没有开心. 多美好.
如果我不存在,我就永远没有烦恼.
可惜,我存在.
我存在,导致我有情感,我有人性. 我的人性让我不能将我自己不存在. 我希望存在,并且希望永久存在. 很累很累. 如果我可以选择,我宁愿不出生. 这样就没有存在/不存在的问题.
我希望不存在, 但是又希望存在. 如果我从来不存在,我就不会希望存在或者不存在.
你可以去做一个哲学
计算机尚且需要能源，需要补给（不管是以什么物质形态存在的计算机，它总不是一台永动机），而计算机本身不必去考虑这些除了计算之外的事情，是因为有非计算机的东西（人类？）替其考虑了，换句话说，计算机的美好，某种程度上是建立在非计算机的东西的不美好之上的，计算机本身的不美好被非计算机的东西承担了，故，计算机可以专注于计算，而不必考虑其他事情。
人是一个悖谬 “人=~人"，逻辑上也许违背了同一律，但是，人本身便是如此。
你才是哲学专业啊
你才是哲学专业啊 xDDD
无法反驳.
感情亦是罪孽---难怪
感情亦是罪孽---难怪你你的分析那么井井有条高高在上---到了这份上我已觉得与你争实在没有意义。
你个SB到哪里都是一条
你个SB到哪里都是一条狗
这个下贱，低能的“
这个下贱，低能的“新”中国人到哪儿都是下贱，低能的“新”中国人
呵呵。中国和中共是
呵呵。中国和中共是有区别的。
中共的西藏和中国的西藏是有区别的。
To whomever it is that keeps
To whomever it is that keeps posting:
Please shut the fuck up.
Hey
I don't know what you guys talking about and I think this blog is so racist.
P.S.: your English is so poor. "A while ago"? "It got really a huge volume"? whf? your English expression is so poor...
thank you for noticing all
thank you for noticing all the english problem i have. maybe you want to put more time into your job instead of come here finding my english errors. i know i suck at english. and i'm fine with it
May be u wana a white man
May be u wana a white man fuck u mother.so u'll say "En......Now I am a little part of white man,u know my mother was fucked by a white man" .Good luck.
Why are you putting your own
Why are you putting your own fantasy on other people
雖然你已經不看
雖然你已經不看 comment 了
我想說 我同意你的論點
去他X的祖宗和血統 那些東西從來也沒幫過自己
人最應該愛自己
而我欣賞你
U R JUST A PIECE OF SHIT!
IN CHINA U R NOT CHINESE;
IN AUSTRALIA U R NOT AUSTRALIAN;
U R JUST A PIECE OF SHIT!
SO PITEOUS!
said the person who doesn't
said the person who doesn't have a website and use all caps.
那些粪青只会跟着别
那些粪青只会跟着别人骂，真出事了的时候，不知道在哪
大部分粪青窦只是躲在人群中附和，两边要是真打起来，大部分都得跑了
反正人群中多他们不多，少他们不少
关于侵华战争，外国
关于侵华战争，外国佬瞧不起中国的原因之一是中国整天对日本喊打喊杀，其实根本没有形动。
搞得好像中国打完上个世纪的战争后就不再发展了似的，还有那些参战日本人早死光了
我不想对任何人种怀有偏见
种族主义完全是无聊的废品，但是爱国不算种族主义
很少的人真的把种族主义当原则，即使一个人对某个种族有偏见，但是他要是遇到了一个像样的家伙，过一段时间，他们就不会在乎人种问题
世界上没有人是一样的，没有人生来有罪，没有人生来就是上等人。那些粪青的胡话无视即可
racist
Chinese are fucking racist. They say American Born Chinese, Canadian born Chinese, My ass Born Chinese... If you are born in america,grow up in america and don't even know how to speak or write Mandarin how are you Chinese?
Besides Chinese culture is the biggest bullshit ever heard: they burned all their books and masterpieces in their stupid revolutions (except the one in Taiwan), Chinese museums only own replicas.
Simple Mandarin never helped Chinese to get more educated and, by the way (official PRC number) 45% of chinese people aren't able to speak mandarin (just imagine how many can't write and read)
These fucking raciste invaded Tibet, but people there are not chinese, whatever you put on them a fucking kinda "Han ethnic" label.
They want Taiwan to belong to PRC, but less than 5% of Taiwanese are chinese, the other 95% are either culture mixed with aboriginal (adn test have been done), pure aboriginal, culture mixed with all the successive inviders (dutch,spain,france,japan) or mixed with other foreigners, or simply foreigners with Taiwan citizenship.
China Fuck You, your history is a big bullshit, The first emperor was a sick bastard like Hitler or Napoleon.
The best of your emperors were Manchu or Mongols (read your history books)
China Fuck You, your sick bastard government persecute uighour, falung gong, reporters, students (the one thinking), blog owners...
China Fuck You, you eat dog, cats and rats, what kinda sick sons of bitches are u?
(except the 20 000 000 who are not able to eat every day (PRC official number), for you guys I am really sorry, but what the fuck are you waiting ? Go kick your government ass! these punks have BMW, Benz, Limousine when you are starving and you don't have drinkable water... Move your ass ! Do a real revolution, you weak subhuman larvaes! One for freedom, not for being fucked by the elite again...
F U C K China !!! I am a bloody raciste, I hate Chinese, they are either fucking bastards making dollars on the back or their own "brothers" ( One dream my ass), either too weak to fight these bastards. La liberte ou la mort! Plutot mort que soumis! ( surtout a de telles sous merdes genetiques). Thank you Japan for Nanjing, You're welcome to visit it again .
PS: Fuck the Kuomingtang, these bastards are so weak that they fleed to Taiwan and never went back to free their own country from the chicoms. May all of them die and burn in hell ( chinese hell, ther are more deamons )...
PPS: Mazu loves Taiwan
Most Chinese I saw are
Most Chinese I saw are racist... but...
Dude you are so racist!!!!
There is nothing wrong eating dogs, cats or rats.
r u Taiwanese? oh, u r more
r u Taiwanese?
oh, u r more racist than us, so should u fuck yourself first?
hum, also pig can be you pet, but u can also eat pigs, nothing wrong to eat animal.
and we can say European always have sex, they just like dogs, so they don't want us to eat their brothers and sisters, Indian are smelly just like dog, also we can say Taiwan was ruled by a lot of countries, they are true bastard,may be they had mixed thier blood with pigs....(we have enough reason to curse all the world.) If u really want to curse others there are a lot of reasons to condemn them, not just u can curse others
also, if u want to fuck us, don't show us u can just say bad words.
如果我话没说清楚，MGCCL帮忙翻译一下吧
我想说你喜欢一种动物，你可以将它作为宠物，如果没感觉，你也可以吃。好像现在有人吃猪，有人将猪作为宠物一样。
我们要骂别人，理由大把大把的，我们可以说白人开放得就像狗一样，印度人闻着像狗一样，你们富有本土精神的台湾人的家乡曾被多个国家占领过，人种实在太杂，说不定含有狗血。。。。以上则为中国人的反击
不过，我想说无聊的口水战是没完的，兄弟你是来打口水战的，我告诉你，我能用比你毒千倍的话骂回去，但是我不屑于跟着你丢人,还有我丝毫不怀疑你能再次骂回来
还有，那些扯Chinese
还有，那些扯Chinese are fucking racist. They say American Born Chinese, Canadian born Chinese的人就是跟你一样的粪青，韩国粪青最近大量发表类似的言论，也挨了世界人民及粪青的一顿骂
http://www.amnestyusa.org/our
http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-priorities/china/page.do?id=1011134&n1=3&n2=884
http://www.flickr.com/photos/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28001545@N00/sets/72157604534147084/show
作者能用简体中文写
作者能用简体中文写一遍你的帖子吗?
我不知道你们在讨论什么?谢谢
没见过这么白痴的人！
让人生气很舒服么？你们不是主张和平么？
白痴？
看来你还很幼稚，所以我不怪你，放开心胸，多看点书，让眼界更广阔！
你骂我，不要紧，但你骂了我的同胞。
从不骂人的我，fuck u
以后说话,一次性说完,
以后说话,一次性说完,不要发3次. 这是基本的准则,不要滥用人家给你发表意见的权利.
聪明的中国人该反思一下了
为什么全世界都恨中国，难道全都是世界的错吗。我认为作者写得十分有道理，中国就是把很多不必要的东西看得太重了。
但还有其他原因：其他人多少对中国有些反对意见，中国就会竭尽全力的侮辱对方，以求在面子上获胜。（看中国那些大粪谩骂各国的帖子就知道了）。再者，中国是世界上唯一一个永远不会承认犯错的国家，所有的错都是对方犯的，对方能接受吗？还有，中国是世界上唯一一个有点成绩就得瑟没完的国家。如，刘翔跑个第一中国就说“世界你太慢了”。最后，中国是世界上唯一一个“有理由”欺负别人的国家：中国以前被某某欺负过，现在中国连本带利地报复回去了，中国会狰狞地叫到“中国站起来了，中国强大了，中国自信了！”
中国就是这样一点都不可爱，难怪世界恨中国。
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